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8 SOCIALIST ACTION AUGUST 1992 Might the PAC participate in CODESA if it reconvenes in the future?

Kwedie Mkalipi: We have repeatedly said that we will not participate in CODESA. There are reasons for this. CODESA, in our opinion, can not give up the goods because CODESA is a group of various people coming with their various allies. You'll see on one side the Nationalist Party with its allies, those who belong to the Tricameral Parliament and those who belong to the Bantustans. All those people are in the pay of the South African government.

So those people, whether they like it or not, must obey their master's voice. If the master says no, then you'll hear a chorus of no's all over. Therefore, you can see that it's a prepackaged arrangement.

SA: Taking it up to date, the ANC is stressing the goal of an interim government. What is the position of the PAC on this project?

KM: When we speak of the interim government, which we in the PAC call the transitional authority, it's a method to help hand over power to the majority. And nothing else. It should not be taken as the government that will be ruling, because they will have no mandate for such a government.

Who will be the current government should be the first question. If one said to me, it is to be formed by the CODESA grouping-look, in that grouping is the ANC and its allies. It is the Nationalist Party and its allies. But what about the thousands and thousands of organizations who would be left outside?

SA: Would the PAC participate in the interim government as it is being spoken of by the ANC?

KM: No. No chance for that. We would participate in the elections, but we can not participate in something that is designed to be run by decree. It's totally unfair.

SA: The ANC is also demanding a constituent assembly to write a new

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